"missing link" found: 47million year old human anc

No you weren't.

Have you even read the book of Genesis?

You Mean The One In Final Fantasy?

thats loveless!

[DarkPacMan77]

Final Fantasy nerds... j/k I'm one too.

How long have you heard that scientists think humans had tails once a long, long time ago as you've been growing up? Well, those scientists may have found a human descendant with a tail.

Just because evolution doesn't "make sense" to someone doesn't mean it's not true. Ace kind of has that sentiment. Like... religion just fills in the gaps, he thinks. But to me, if you said that there was a guy named Jesus Christ that lived here and died here and couldn't even show me one remnant of his remains or prove his existence was ever true... well that gives me reason to believe other things... and now that people have found something from 47 million years ago (just a couple days before Jesus Christ) and say that it supports their theory, I think it'd be worthwhile to at least listen

-DarkPacMan77-

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Well yea, but just because anything at all doesn't make sense to anyone doesn't mean its true, whatever it may be. We just have different ways of thinking. That's my excuse for any argument now though lol, I just except the fact that everyone thinks differently. But I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not blocking out the whole fact that this skeleton was found, and I certainly will continue to follow up on it as more research is done on it. I'm definitely going to listen

For instance, asexual reproduction doesn't make any sense to me, that doesn't mean its not true though :p

Im a catholic and ive always believed in evolution..... the article at the bottom was really interesting, I don't see why the original poster had to be such a... well a douche, he could have gone at that a bit more intellectually me thinks.... One more thing, this is a relatively new discovery in terms of in the scientific community so i wouldn't count Christianity out just yet

[crait]

I don't need the Bible to tell me anything.
What am I interpreting?
I don't read the Bible? It's been translated many times and much of the work has been lost alone through that. Too much to accurately understand its meaning.
What am I interpreting if I don't read it?

And WTF is the bing bang anyways?
It's basically everything was created out of nothing by nothing.
Creationism is everything was made out of nothing by something.
Which seems more plausible?

Nah, like for the catrillionth time on this board evolution just doesn't make sense to me.

The mutations that are talked about that supposedly occur over millions of years aren't the only way new species are created. If you take a common bluegill and cross it with a large mouth bass you end up with a new species, a hybrid if you will. This is one of many ways evolution works. All the "theory" really states is that life doesn't remain static that it is dynamic, constantly changing and reacting to it's environment. Can we all agree to that?

Homo sapiens is an evolutionary dead end. The reason being is that we are so intelligent that we fix physical and mental problems ailing our fellow man instead of allowing nature to run it's course. Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to modern man. If a person has trouble seeing we give them glasses or if they are fat we staple their stomach shut. We have progressed beyond the "animal" kingdom because we allow people with inferior traits to reproduce because we are caring and compassionate. Oh and we THINK it is the right thing to do. The average person lives less than 100 years. to nature that is less than a blink of an eye so to say that anything isn't possible is just short sighted.

explain why something such as the big bang theory happen

No one really knows I will admit. All that is suspected is that all matter in the universe was compressed into a small area and it just burst creating the universe we know today. It is assumed that this happened because all the stars and galaxies are moving away from a central point at a uniform rate. The expanding universe is a provable fact so you have to conclude that at some time, all the matter in the universe was contained at a single location.

Where do the elements come from? Exploding stars. The stars through fusion create new elements by adding neutrons and protons to hydrogen atoms(protons) thereby changing their atomic weight thus creating new elements.

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Well I mean, where did stars come from, where did neutrons and protons come from needed to make a atom? Although the same goes for Christianity, where did God come from. I just would rather want a explanation as to why humans were the one with caring emotions, why are we the "thing" that helps others in our race by producing such things as glasses. Why are we different from animals? I just feel that "Because God said so" is a more acceptable reason to me (same logic that even our parents have used once or twice) than "it just happened".

Like, if we are so weak (in relation to your comment about life expectancy) compared to say, animals that let nature run its course, then why do we seem so more advanced in our way of life compared to animals?

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The only supporting evidence that the big bang happened is through red shift.
Look it up guys. It's basically saying stuff is moving away from the center of the universe.
What else could this be?
Well, it could be black matter, negative matter, because we don't know exactly what this kind of matter does.
It could be an explosion that pushed everything back. Maybe some places have this all the time but the most recent is the only detectable one.
Maybe God created it like that because if we weren't moving in the path we currently are, it could be impossible for us to live weather you believe creationism/macro-evolution or just micro-evolution like I do.
If you believe that the red shift factor is indisputable proof that the big bang happened, well, you're an idiot. Other things could have happened.
Also, were did that mass come from that was in a small area? God? According to you guys, certainly not. It's impossible. The matter was created by nothing out of nothing. Hmm... That's believable.

What if God decided to create single celled organisms out of nothing after he created Earth and decided he didn't like that idea and killed them all? Then, he created more complex creatures, let them live for a while, and killed them all. Then, he created even more complex creatures, let them live for a while, and killed them on. What if he did this many, many times? There's no possible evidence to disprove this. It explains just as much as the theory of evolution does. That's why some creatures are not around today. That's why there's evidence they existed. It would even explain large gaps between species that seem closely related. Hmmmmm... This idea is more scientifically proven than the theory of evolution.
Someone disprove this.

The only supporting evidence that the big bang happened is through red shift.
Look it up guys. It's basically saying stuff is moving away from the center of the universe.
What else could this be?
Well, it could be black matter, negative matter, because we don't know exactly what this kind of matter does.
It could be an explosion that pushed everything back. Maybe some places have this all the time but the most recent is the only detectable one.
Maybe God created it like that because if we weren't moving in the path we currently are, it could be impossible for us to live weather you believe creationism/macro-evolution or just micro-evolution like I do.
If you believe that the red shift factor is indisputable proof that the big bang happened, well, you're an idiot. Other things could have happened.
Also, were did that mass come from that was in a small area? God? According to you guys, certainly not. It's impossible. The matter was created by nothing out of nothing. Hmm... That's believable.

What if God decided to create single celled organisms out of nothing after he created Earth and decided he didn't like that idea and killed them all? Then, he created more complex creatures, let them live for a while, and killed them all. Then, he created even more complex creatures, let them live for a while, and killed them on. What if he did this many, many times? There's no possible evidence to disprove this. It explains just as much as the theory of evolution does. That's why some creatures are not around today. That's why there's evidence they existed. It would even explain large gaps between species that seem closely related. Hmmmmm... This idea is more scientifically proven than the theory of evolution.
Someone disprove this.

We aren't saying this disproves god
its just disproves creationism and the bible
its impossible to disprove something that has not been proven
Actually, this disproves creationism and the bible in every way possible.

In before "what if god made evolution!!"

I don't read the Bible? It's been translated many times and much of the work has been lost alone through that. Too much to accurately understand it's meaning.

How can you endorse a belief in the teachings of the bible if you have never read it?

where did stars come from, where did neutrons and protons come from needed to make a atom?

The matter inside the singularity that led to the big bang was the stuff that atoms are made of. those atoms clumped together in space and became stars. the stars exploded over time and created other elements and stars that eventually became planets. One thing led to another and Earth was there.

where did God come from.

I believe that there is a difference between the god of the new testament and the universal god. The god of the new testament has too broad a range of emotions to be a truly divine being. Humans were engineered no doubt about it or else "god" would not have to pull a rib from Adam to make Eve.

if we are so weak compared to animals that let nature run its course, then why do we seem so more advanced in our way of life compared to animals?

Humans have a large brain that was given to us by our creator. Animals have claws, fangs, speed,etc we overcome that with brains and that is what makes us different.

this disproves creationism and the bible in every way possible.

No it does not. Scientist have combined monkey DNA with Jellyfish DNA to make monkeys that glow in the dark http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2001/jan/01011205.html . If you read the book of Genesis it is clear that god performed genetic engineering to create the creature known as man, the same goes for Eve. The scriptures state "Let us create man in OUR image in OUR likeness. See, man existed but was given a push by the Elohim. If you look at the evolution trees of other animals such as Elephants and Horses (for example) you see that they have remained relatively unchanged for millions of years. Man however has gone through many changes over mere thousands of years. Our accelerated advancement can only be explained by outside manipulation.

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You believe in evolutionism but have you read Darwin's Of the Origins of Species.
Not only do you endorse it but you teach it too. Kinda sounds like I need my pirate eye patch on and teach you guys something about Pastafarianism.

Oh, and thanks for catching a typo for me!

[Kanadier]

I still think it looks like some social outcast town retard, a few thousand years equivalent of downsyndrom. lol

ok. OKAY fine. its cool dont believe in evolution. thats all good. but can we atleast agree that the bible isnt factual? please PLEASE. its not FACTUAL it cant be cause it contradicts itself nothing that contradicts itself so can be be 100% TRUE. does anyone REALLY believe that jesus was born in two places at once? cave or manger? no one can give me a straight answer. this either proves A) it didnt happen or B) whoever wrote the bible wasnt being truthful. each one of these answers equals the inevitable truth that its not 100% factual and even if its 50% factual than what do you believe or dont believe? star wars is as factual. i could give reasons why a SQUID created the human race and have as much evidence.

not comparing a squid to your god mind you. i dont think its true cause no evidence could back it up squids creating man.i mean. of course neither can anyone prove that were made in gods image. unless of course we qoute the bible. which isnt factual

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Wait, where does the bible contradict itself? I don't remember the exact words in the KJ version, but as far as I remember I have always though Jesus was born in like a hole in a rock, or however you want to describe it. I believe they even had a spot on Discovery Channel that was in like a rock that they believed could have been the place of Jesus birth.