OH BROTHER! There is so much fail in that post...
We are not at war against Iraq. We are having a war within Iraq.
Innocent people include children as young as a month old!!
They can't pick up a gun and defend themselves from either side.
BKFraiders7 wrote:crait wrote:No. That is a lie.
The only thing differentiating an "enemy" and a "civilian" is if they are holding a gun in their hand at the time. You still have not disproved this theory by saying "that is a lie"
I don't even know why you keep saying this. I don't understand. If you are in a battle and you see someone with a gun, yes! Shoot them! Because, they're going to shoot you. Now, the yellow in this graph is not people with guns. They would be considered enemies, and make up the grey area.
If you're implying that we're killing enemies before they have a chance to grab a gun and we're counting them as civilians, then you're gravely mistaken.
Children are dying in this war and that is completely unacceptable by my standards. If retards want to go and kill other people in other countries because some baboon told them that we would all die if we didn't, then that's their problem, but don't get innocent people involved in it.
You cannot tell me that everyone deserved to die or it was for the greater good. Killing kids is never for the greater good. Killing anyone is bad.
BKFraiders7 wrote:crait wrote:Innocent people are like you and I, except in a different location.
I back the United States 100% and even though I dont hold a gun in my hand I am still considered an enemy because I do not support the views of the incoming attackers. So no, you and I would not be innocent if a foreign nation came and invaded our home country.
If you or your son, if you had one, were invaded and killed for no reason, you'd be an innocent casualty. I don't understand why that's hard to understand. You're saying that everyone in Iraq is our enemy?! That's retarded!!
Alright, I know that was exaggerated, but if you're saying that we invade their country and everyone is an enemy, then you're wrong. There are so many women and children that die, weekly, because of this senseless war and it needs to stop. You cannot defend innocent people getting murdered.
BKFraiders7 wrote:crait wrote:You're fine with innocent people dying as long as they aren't related to you.
What if your family was the family that died or even you????!!
If a relative of mine died
in a war with
an enemy country then Id know they went down with honor defending our homeland. But once again my idea still stands that there is no way to tell if 20 of them will enlist the next day and kill 20 of our citizens.
WHAT?! No, no, no. What if your son died who is 3 because of random troops' gunshots?! There is no way a 3-year-old's life if going to be an honorable death. You're talking about if your family was fighting. I'm saying if you or your family are just in your home, randomly, and people kill you. You wouldn't want that. There's no way you can convince me or anyone else that your 3-year-old son will be something you would give up, not for your country, but to the enemy.
That's not honor. That's stubbornness. Whenever you know something is wrong, and you act like everything will be okay. It won't. Hundreds of 3, 4, and 5-year-olds have died in this war, without being on a side or even understanding what people are fighting for.
BKFraiders7 wrote:crait wrote:You would never, and should never, accept innocent people being murdered!
Murder and killing in a war are two totally different things.
No, they are the same if you're killing innocent people who want nothing to do with the war. What about infants? Are they murdered when they are gunned down by soldiers? Or are they killed by the hand of justice so that we can all sleep peacefully at night?
BKFraiders7 wrote:A declaration of war was passed and both nations were notified before one single militant was let loose. Both countries knew there would be casualties with both excepting them. Its the rules of war. Sad to say, but your logic is why many nations feel the United States as a whole is so weak. Too soft. Too insecure. That ideology of us is going to get us all killed someday.
WE ARE NOT AT WAR WITH IRAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is seriously the most stupidest thing I've ever read in my life!!
This is the war on terrorism. We are supposed to be killing terrorists that are threats to America. Maybe if you knew Iraq wasn't our enemies, you wouldn't act like anyone in that country that dies is a death to support our freedom.
No one thinks America is too soft. The world does not think we are too soft. The world thinks, and knows, that we are retarded for listening to Bush. There was no evidence linking Iraq to 9/11. If anything, we should have invaded Saudi Arabia because that's were nearly all of the 'hi-jackers' come from.
Who is going to kill us? Your ideology is what is going to destroy us. We will destroy ourselves.
BKFraiders7 wrote:crait wrote:If you're fine with them being murdered, then you're suggesting that you wouldn't mind taking their place.
No because I dont share in their beliefs, have their ideologies,support their governmental style, or would participate in their culture. That was a really stupid point to make actually..
Do you think that innocent children support or even understand their government?
You think 2-year-olds care about the government?!?!
We are not at war against their beliefs.
We are not at war against their ideologies.
We are not against their governing style.
We are not against their culture!
We are not at war against their religion!
We are not even at war against Iraq!!
We're trying to find and kill terrorists, no matter what country they're in.
We're trying to find and kill terrorists, no matter their political view, religious view, culture, ideology, or anything else. We're supposed to be killing bad people. Not children. Not innocent people.
BKFraiders7 wrote:Im guessing you dont support the bombings on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as well? Those saved an estimated 500,000+ American lives. This is doing the exact same thing
OF COURSE I DON'T!! Why did we have to kill entire cities?! WE DIDN'T!!!
We didn't save anyone by doing that. We killed many, many, many innocent people!
Those bombings were attacks
specifically designed to kill innocent people!!BKFraiders7 wrote:Lord, I pray the American people, American government, and the Nation as a whole regains the backbone that got us in the world to where we are today. That the American people as well as other nations know this is the land of the free, home of the braves, and, above all, your nation in part because of the sacrifices that had to be made along the way. Let us not forget.. amen
Do you even know why we are in Iraq? Or even still in Iraq?!
Weapons of mass destruction? Sure... They totally have them. That's why many, many soldiers have illegally quit the military and fled to Canada: Because the government lied to you and you still will defend that lie. I'm not saying being patriotic is bad- I'm saying that defending bad people in power is bad. America is supposed to be the best country in the world and whenever people like Bush have too much power, they destroy her name.
BKFraiders7 wrote:que13x wrote:OH I forgot to mention, the foreign country that invaded us also disbanded our military, because that is what we did to them.
Then they won? Were just rebels then in their land. But beside that, which country could totally disable our military right now? Thank the Lord for our Army
Good thing our soldiers were lied to so that they would join! They were afraid and were told what to do. They were terrorized by the threats of what would happen if they didn't join. They were threatened into doing something that they didn't want to do. That sounds like terrorism to me.
Now, do you see who is the terrorist?